Cave training
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Personal comparison.
| Organisation | Swiss Cave DIving | IANTD (Sulawesi Dive Trek) | ? ( Stratis Kas) | TDI (SubSport) | FFESSM CNPS | FSS EFPS | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level | HT 1 | HT 2 | HT 3 | Cavern | Intro | Full | Cavern | Intro | Full | Cavern | Intro | Full | PS1 | PS2 | PS3 | – |
| Unsupervised | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✖️ | ✓ | ||||||||||
| Max penetration | 50 m, day | – | day | – | 60 m, day | – | 60 m, day | – | 90 min total | – | ||||||
| MOD | 20 m | 30 m | 40 m END | 39 m | 40 m | 40 m | 40 m | – | ||||||||
| Visibility min | 10 m | 3 m | – | |||||||||||||
| Gas limit | 1/3 | 1/3 | 1/3 | 1/3 | 1/4 | |||||||||||
| Deco | ✖️ | ✓ | ✖️ | ✖️ | 30 min | ✖️ | ✓ | 30 min | ✓ | |||||||
| Cave limitations | ||||||||||||||||
| T | ✖️ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✖️ | ✓ | ✓ | |||||||||
| Jumps | ✖️ | ✓ | ✖️ | ✓ | ✓ | ✖️ | ✓ | ✓ | ||||||||
| Gaps | ✖️ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✖️ | ✓ | ✓ | |||||||||
| Restrictions | ✖️ | ✓ | ✖️ | ✖️ | ✓ | ✖️ | ✓ | ✓ | ||||||||
| Circuit, traverses | ✖️ | ✓ | ✖️ | ✓ | ✖️ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ||||||||
| Siphon | ✖️ | ✓ | no multisiphon | ✓ | ||||||||||||
| Entry requirements | ||||||||||||||||
| Min certification | Rescue | Dive leader | Advanced | Advanced | P2 | N2 | N3 | skills | ||||||||
| Min open dives | 25 | 50 | 100 | 10 | 30 | 50 | 30 | 20 | – | 25 | – | (15) | (20) | – | – | |
| Min night dives | 5 | 10 | 20 | – | – | – | – | – | ||||||||
| Min overhead dives | – | 4 (2 sites) | 8 (4 sites) | – | 10 | – | 10 | – | – | 20 (3 sites) | 40 (6 sites) | – | ||||
| Specifications | – | – | 500 min | – | – | 6 Z3, 2 multi | – | |||||||||
| Course | ||||||||||||||||
| Theory, hours | 4 to 6 | 6 to 8 | 8 to 12 | 1 x | 1 x | 1 x | 1 x | |||||||||
| Dry practice | 0.5 day | 0.5 day | 0.5 day | |||||||||||||
| Open dives | 2 | 4 (2 sites) | 4 (2 sites) | 1 | 1 | 1 | – | 1 | 1 | 1 | – | |||||
| Overhead dives | 4 (2 sites) | 6 (3 sites) | 8 (4 sites) | 4 | 4 | 8 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 (2 sites) | 4 (2 sites) | 8 (3 sites) | 1+3 | as many 2-4 day perfecting courses as needed | as needed | |
| Bottom time | 100 min (200) | 100 min (200) | 400 min | 60 to 90 min together | 90 to 120 min | 80 min | 100 min | 240 min | ||||||||
| Minimum days | 2.5 | 3.5 | 5.5 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 3 | |||
| Total to cave level 3 | ||||||||||||||||
| Course days | 11.5 | 13 | 12 | 8 | 4 + as needed | |||||||||||
| Overhead dives | 18 (4 sites) + 12 | 16 + 10 | 13 + 10 | 16 (3 sites) + 0 | 40 (6 sites, min 2 multisiphon) | |||||||||||
| Costs | ||||||||||||||||
| CHF | 590 | 1045+ | 1650 | 865 | 865 | 1080 | 575 | 905 | 905 | 450 | 400 | 750 | 230 | as needed | ||
| Total CHF | 3285 incl. services | 2810 | 2385 | 1600 | ||||||||||||
| Per guided OH | 182.50 | 175.60 | 183.45 | 100.00 | ||||||||||||
| Specialities | ||||||||||||||||
| Courses | Stage, SM, Mapping, DPV | Tec, DPV, SM, Stage/Multi, Survey | Stage, Multi-Stage, DPV | Tec, SM, Stage, DPV, Survey | Nitrox, Trimix | |||||||||||
Line
| GUE | SCD | IANTD | TDI | FFESSM | FFS | Now | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SMB spool | 30 m | – | 30 m flat | ||||
| Safety spool | 45 m | 50 m | 45 m white stuck | ||||
| Jump spool | 23 m | 30 m | 26 m green | ||||
| Gap spool | – | 15 m | |||||
| Primary reel | 45 m | 80 m | 228 m | ||||
| Exploration reel | – | > 100 m |