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* October. Resuming diving during a retreat in Indonesia. I switch to '''sidemount''' and deco, and discover the Coral Triangle.
* October. Resuming diving during a retreat in Indonesia. I switch to '''sidemount''' and deco, and discover the Coral Triangle.
* November. A [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhR8DmMwXxY video of Robin Cuesta] in Sulawesi caves '''inspires me to get into cave diving'''.
* November. A [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhR8DmMwXxY video of Robin Cuesta] in Sulawesi caves '''inspires me to get into cave diving'''.
* December. Exceptional 100th dive in Thailand where I am surrounded by thousands Great Barracudas.
* December. Exceptional 100th dive in Thailand, where I am surrounded by thousands Great Barracudas.


2024
2024


* January. I order the books from [https://stratiskas.com/testimonialscc-2/ Stratis Kas] where renown divers provide '''insights into cave training and incidents'''.
* January. I order the books from [https://stratiskas.com/testimonialscc-2/ Stratis Kas] where renown divers provide '''insights into cave training and incidents'''.
* March. I '''plan a full cave training''' in Sulawesi in June, and propose to build a research collaboration with the [https://nixie-expeditions.com Nixie expedition].
* March. I '''plan a full cave training''' in Sulawesi in June, and propose to build a [[Uncovering Inner Worlds|research collaboration]] with the [https://nixie-expeditions.com Nixie expedition].
* April. Back to the lake with my new sidemount equipment, I am confronted with '''many challenges''': my old dry suit is leaking and the setup needs a lot of adjustments, which adds to the skills I need to acquire to become a dive leader. I need practice!
* April. Back to the lake with my new sidemount equipment, I am confronted with '''many challenges''': my old dry suit is leaking and the setup needs a lot of adjustments, which adds to the skills I need to acquire to become a dive leader. I need practice!
* May. I decide to '''postpone the cave training''' as I do not feel ready, and I did not get the support for my research.
* May. I decide to '''postpone the cave training''' as I do not feel ready, and I did not get the support for my research.
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== Diving possibilities ==
== Diving possibilities ==
Beyond my intention to plan trainings with the instructors mentioned, various openings emerge to practice in 2025.
This bring me to reflect that gathering practices in different settings may be more important at the beginning of the curriculum, than finding the best training. I will be able to improve my practice and get training with the instructors I identified as my practice develops.
* End of March: possible cavern training during my stay in South France – 3 cavern dives?
* Early June: possible week in Rocamadour proposed by my current instructor – clarify possibilities to practice in caverns?
* End of July: possible practice in Vallorbe with SCD?


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!Organisation
!Organisation
! colspan="3" |[http://www.swiss-cave-diving.ch/frame_set.html Swiss Cave DIving]
! colspan="3" |[http://www.swiss-cave-diving.ch/frame_set.html Swiss Cave DIving]
! colspan="3" |[https://www.sulawesidivetrek.com/index.php/cave-diving/cave-diving-courses/ Sulawesi Dive Trek]
! colspan="3" |[https://www.sulawesidivetrek.com/index.php/cave-diving/cave-diving-courses/ Sulawesi Dive Trek] (IANTD)
! colspan="3" |[https://stratiskas.com/cavecoursesnew/ Stratis Kas]  
! colspan="3" |[https://stratiskas.com/cavecoursesnew/ Stratis Kas]  
![https://www.cip-marseille.fr/stage-formation-grotte-2-jours CIP] (ANFP)
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!Level
!Level
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!Intro
!Intro
!Full
!Full
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|Distance max
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|–
|50 m, daylight
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|Visbility min
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|3 m
|3 m
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|–
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| colspan="2" |39 m
| colspan="2" |39 m
| colspan="3" |30 or 40 m
| colspan="3" |30 or 40 m
|20 m
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! colspan="10" |Cave limitations
|Gas limit
| colspan="3" |1/3
|1/3
|1/6
|1/3
|1/6
|1/6
|1/3
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! colspan="11" |Cave limitations
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|T
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|✓
|✓
|✖️
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|Jumps
|Jumps
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|✓
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|Gaps
|Gaps
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|✓
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|Restrictions
|Restrictions
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|✖️
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|✓
|✖️
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|Siphon
|Siphon
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|✖️
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|✓
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|✖️
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|✓
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|Deco
|Deco
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|✖️
|✖️ or 30 min
|✖️ or 30 min
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|Gas limit
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|1/3
|1/3
|1/3
|1/6
|1/3
|1/6
|1/6
|1/3
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! colspan="10" |Entry requirements
! colspan="11" |Entry requirements
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|Min certification
|Min certification
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| colspan="3" |Advanced
| colspan="3" |Advanced
| colspan="3" |Advanced
| colspan="3" |Advanced
|N1
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|Min open dives
|Min open dives
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|20
|–
|–
|10
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|Min overhead dives
|Min overhead dives
|–
|–
|4 in 2 places
|4 (2 sites)
|8 in 4 places
|8 (4 sites)
| colspan="3" |–
| colspan="3" |–
| colspan="2" |–
| colspan="2" |–
|10
|10
|–
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! colspan="10" |Course
! colspan="11" |Course
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|Theory
|Theory
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|1 course
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|Dry practice
|Dry practice
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|0.5 day
|0.5 day
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|Open dives
|Open dives
|2
|2
|4 in 2 places
|4 (2 sites)
|4 in 2 places
|4 (2 sites)
|4
|4
|4
|4
|8
|8
|1 dive
|1  
|1 dive
|1  
|–
|–
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|Overhead dives
|Overhead dives
|4 in 2 places
|4 (2 sites)
|6+ in 3 places
|6+ (3 sites)
|8 in 4 places
|8 (4 sites)
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|3 dives
|3  
|6+ dives
|6+  
|4 to 6 dives
|4 to 6  
|3
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|Bottom time
|Bottom time
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|100 min
|100 min
|400 min
|400 min
| colspan="2" |60 to 90 min total
| colspan="2" |60 to 90 min for both
|90 to 120 min
|90 to 120 min
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|Course length
|Minimum days
|2.5 days
|2.5  
|3.5 days
|3.5  
|5.5 days
|5.5  
|4 days
|4  
|4 days
|4  
|5 days
|5  
|3 days
|3  
|5 days
|5  
|4 days
|4  
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|Total length
|Days to full cave
| colspan="3" |11.5 days
| colspan="3" |11.5  
| colspan="3" |13 days
| colspan="3" |13  
| colspan="3" |12 days
| colspan="3" |12  
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|CHF
|CHF
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|905
|905
|905
|400
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|Total CHF
|Total CHF
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| colspan="3" |2810
| colspan="3" |2810
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|Additional levels
| colspan="3" |CCR,
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Revision as of 01:09, 10 March 2025

Background

1997

  • April. First recreational dive in Lake Geneva. Over two years, I will do 80 dives, most in the lake.

2023

  • October. Resuming diving during a retreat in Indonesia. I switch to sidemount and deco, and discover the Coral Triangle.
  • November. A video of Robin Cuesta in Sulawesi caves inspires me to get into cave diving.
  • December. Exceptional 100th dive in Thailand, where I am surrounded by thousands Great Barracudas.

2024

  • January. I order the books from Stratis Kas where renown divers provide insights into cave training and incidents.
  • March. I plan a full cave training in Sulawesi in June, and propose to build a research collaboration with the Nixie expedition.
  • April. Back to the lake with my new sidemount equipment, I am confronted with many challenges: my old dry suit is leaking and the setup needs a lot of adjustments, which adds to the skills I need to acquire to become a dive leader. I need practice!
  • May. I decide to postpone the cave training as I do not feel ready, and I did not get the support for my research.
  • October. My most stressful dive, navigating into a milky cloud with maybe 30 cm visibilty for 15 minutes.
  • November. Back to South East Asia, where I discover freediving.

2025

Next

  • April. Certification as Dive leader, training as Instructor.

Diving possibilities

Beyond my intention to plan trainings with the instructors mentioned, various openings emerge to practice in 2025.

This bring me to reflect that gathering practices in different settings may be more important at the beginning of the curriculum, than finding the best training. I will be able to improve my practice and get training with the instructors I identified as my practice develops.

  • End of March: possible cavern training during my stay in South France – 3 cavern dives?
  • Early June: possible week in Rocamadour proposed by my current instructor – clarify possibilities to practice in caverns?
  • End of July: possible practice in Vallorbe with SCD?

Training comparison

Organisation Swiss Cave DIving Sulawesi Dive Trek (IANTD) Stratis Kas CIP (ANFP)
Level HT 1 HT 2 HT 3 Cavern Intro Full Cavern Intro Full
Distance max 50 m, daylight – – daylight – – 60 m, daylight – – 50 m, daylight
Visbility min 10 m 3 m –
MOD 20 m 30 m 40 m EAD divers level 39 m 30 or 40 m 20 m
Gas limit 1/3 1/3 1/6 1/3 1/6 1/6 1/3
Cave limitations
T ✖️ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✖️
Jumps ✖️ ✓ ✓ ✖️ ✓ ✓
Gaps ✖️ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
Restrictions ✖️ ✖️ ✓ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✓ ✖️
Siphon ✖️ ✖️ ✓
Circuit, traverses ✖️ ✖️ ✓ ✖️ ✖️ ✓
Deco ✖️ ✖️ O2, Trimix ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ or 30 min
Entry requirements
Min certification Rescue Dive leader Advanced Advanced N1
Min open dives 25 50 100 10 30 50 30 20 – 10
Min overhead dives – 4 (2 sites) 8 (4 sites) – – 10 –
Course
Theory 4 to 6 hours 6 to 8 hours 8 to 12 hours 1 course
Dry practice 0.5 day 0.5 day 0.5 day
Open dives 2 4 (2 sites) 4 (2 sites) 4 4 8 1 1 –
Overhead dives 4 (2 sites) 6+ (3 sites) 8 (4 sites) 3 6+ 4 to 6 3
Bottom time 100 min 100 min 400 min 60 to 90 min for both 90 to 120 min
Minimum days 2.5 3.5 5.5 4 4 5 3 5 4
Days to full cave 11.5 13 12
CHF 590 1045+ 1650 865 865 1080 575 905 905 400
Total CHF 3285 2810
Additional levels CCR,
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