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== Meetings ==
== 2024 05 16 Decision to postpone ==
The lack of funding plus the gaps in my preparation bring me to the difficult decision to postpone the trip. I inform Robin, and Antoine.


=== 2024 02 23 Call with Rannva ===
== 2024 05 15 IONS workhop rejected ==
Exploring a collaboration with [https://nixie-expeditions.com/ Nixie Expeditions]
Information that workshop is not selected.
 
== 2024 05 15 PH funding rejected ==
Information that funding is refused, letter to come
 
== 2024 05 01 Meeting Robin ==
14:55 to 15:00, online – Robin, Fabio
 
* Budget review, not able to join without funding, only answer on May 20
* Proposal to find someone to replace me and give them priority
* Still very interested to the training, if not in June before the end of the year
* Also interested in building meaninfgul projects
* Lack of resources seen from myself, Robin, the team, and Nixie too
 
Feedback
 
* May already be difficult to find another person
* Arrangement regarding payment possible given background with Antoine
* Proposal to maintain given it is rare to have four-people team dedicated on two weeks
* We actively inform each other on news
 
== 2024 04 30 VS funding submitted ==
Funding application for research trip early 2025
 
== 2024 04 09 IONS workshop submitted ==
 
* Proposal for scientific presentation
 
== 2024 04 01 Meeting Ar ==
10:00 to , online – Ar, Fabio
 
*
 
== 2024 04 01 Meeting Antoine ==
10:00 to 10:50, online – Antoine, Fabio
 
* Update
* Training to [https://www.kissrebreathers.com/catalog/KISS-Sidewinder-p207591749 Kiss Sidewinder]
* Possibility of visa
 
== 2024 03 29 Team alignment ==
13:55 to 14:25, online – Shiraz, Robin, Fabio
 
* Shiraz
** "zero knowledge of cave", did cavern training and a bit of intro to cave with Robin in Wakatobi in October 2022
** Indonesia closest, no visibility in Malaysian caves
** interested in exploring caves, joining 4 permanent cave divers in Malaysia
** try to enjoy, hard working too, used to carry tanks :)
** diving instructor, no interest in CCR
** 60 years old
* Internet: mostly permanent access to 4G, easy to send big files
* Confirmation of arrival (22-23), preparatory dive (24), training (25+)
* payment via Wise / Revolut
* next → call with Robin for material, show infrastructure
 
== 2024 03 24 PH funding submitted ==
 
* PH research trip
 
== 2024 03 22 Meeting Robin ==
10:50 to 11:30, online – Robin, Fabio
 
* Expedition
** Team busy, will come back, logistics issue given additional research team
** Question of 3D scan, ideally with educational aim, but 100K needed for prod
** General funding moving forward, Rannva is leading
* Cave Course
** Shiraz confirmed, will arrive on June 22 and will dive in wetsuit, did Intro to Cave with Robin, busy with exhibitions for Malaysian group
** Mike confirmed, will arrive on June 23, not known but dives regularly with CCR
** June 24 to rest, check material configuration, do a local dive in the sea
** Dry suit ok, up to 3 hours into the water
** Confirmation with deposit of 1K
* Art pilot in june
** Letter to be signed
** Robin started photography four months ago
** Local link with painters, poets, etc easier on site – challenge of time
* My inputs
** Proposal to link 3D to game project with Genevan foundation
** Ongoing D3 DM 60 m
* Price of BigBlue to be sent
 
== 2024 03 20 File ==
 
* Proposal updated based on various inputs, especially Florens
* Proposal sent to Robin, Florens, Michael, Lionel, Sigit, Tobias, Yonariza
* To do : library, Carole, Li, Ranvva, Eric, Isabelle - Alex ?
* Application for a research notebook at hypotheses.org
 
== 2024 03 15 Meeting Yonazira ==
11:00 to 11:20, online – Yonazira, Fabio
 
* Intro about project
* Previously more active in water management and irrigation systems, now more in forests
* Different perspectives of the commons depending on cultural groups and domains
* Example of [https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1194/ Subak in Bali], Unesco heritage
* Fabio sends short text
 
== 2024 03 15 Meeting Tobias ==
09:30 to 09:40, phone – Tobias, Fabio
 
* Info about project and link to research done on fisheries management in Central Sulawesi
* Contact to expert early April
* Possible link to IASC conference in 2027
*Fabio sends short text
 
== 2024 03 15 Meeting Eric ==
14:15 to 14:30, Campus Biotech – Eric, Fabio
 
* Update
 
== 2024 03 15 Meeting Carole, Izia ==
13:30 to 14:10, Campus Biotech – Carole, Izia, Fabio
 
* Presentation of projects
* Links proposed
 
== 2024 03 15 Call with Li ==
10:00 to 10:10, online – Li, Fabio
 
* Inputs following intro
** Main public could be university nature lovers: '''pencinta alam'''
** For landrights activists, the topic may not be a priority unless visibly related
** See [https://magz.tempo.co/edisi/1535/2023-01-23/cover-story nickel mining article] in magasine Tempo
** Parallel of mapping with satellites helping visualise deforestation, mines, etc.
* Local culture
** Mostly pragmatic relationship to nature – no concept similar to [[wikipedia:Pachamama|Pachamama]] in South America
** Awareness that crop exploitation does not benefit local communities – forced displacements, etc.
**An inhabitant spke of corporate occupation as living with giants : '''hidup bersama raksasa'''
** Own focus not so much on the frontier in the relationship to nature
* Post call reflection
** Transiting from creating digital commons to preserving natural commons
 
== 2024 03 08 Call with Sigit ==
11:45 to 11:50, online – Sigit, Fabio
 
* Info on project
 
== 2024 03 07 Meeting Julien ==
17:45 to 19:40, Martigny, Julien, Fabio
 
* Discussion about project and timeframe
* P3 CMAS, evt DM SDI and FESSSM licence
** Focus on Dive Leadership, Safety, tech for Overhead
** 10 x theory Thu 17:45 to 19:45
** 15-20 dives in pool, Roselles (20 m), Les Îles (38 m), few times Rivaz, by two 
** 900.– incl certification, evt DM and FFESSM 50.–
** Book : code vagnon guide de palanquée
* Afterwards possibly M1 with 10 x theory and 10 x practice
 
== 2024 03 07 Call with Antoine ==
12:15 to 12:30, online – Antoine, Fabio
 
* Brief info about trip
 
== 2024 03 07 Call with Robin ==
10:45 to 11:00, online – Robin, Fabio
 
* Projet art
** Importante culture d'artistes dans de nombreux domaines
** L'ile de [[wikipedia:Baubau|Buton]] fut un sultanat dès le 15e siècle et a une riche tradition orale
** Info sur besoins pour la demande : artiste pro, légitimité institutionnelle, lettre de référence
* Confirmation sur voyage
** Destination : [[wikipedia:Aéroport_Betoambari|Betoambari Airport BUW]]
** Vol  de Singapour à Makassar tous les deux jours
** Vols locaux voir traveloka.com
** Compter 25 kg de matériel
**Nouvelle personne dans le groupe
* Retours matériel
** Préférer manchons et colerettes interchangeables, réparations difficiles nivea local
** Utilise des botillons vs rockboot, pas de terrain difficile
** Valve low profile
** Manomètre bouton sur déco ok, mais à changer chaque année
** Poches toujours utiles
 
== 2024 03 04 Call with Robin + proposal sent to team ==
15:00 to 15:30, online – Robin, Fabio
 
* Logistics
** Training foreseen with other diver. Ideally 3rd trainee for group dynamics, otherwise person practicing
**June 24, minimum 13 days (July 6)
** Arrival via Jakarta → Makassar → Baubau. Boat takes three days, not always, schedule one month before
** Start on Baobao for caverns (hosting to chose) then shift to Muna for cave (single hotel), and transportation to various sites
* Expenses
** 4000K IDR / day including tanks, transport
** 500K IDR / night hosting
** 150K IDR / day meals
** 150K IDR boat
 
* Material
** Dry suit neo or trilam  → trilam recommended, more resistant and adaptable
** MK25 / G260 → same
** RK3 HD → has RK3 too light, good fins
** Orca 630 → some had bugs, rather BigBlue TL5200P sidemount
** Casque → 50K IDR/day or LightMonkey or Petzel for sump
** Tank 300 bar → S80 alu 200 easier to manipulate, or 300 7L
 
* Preparation
** Close calls to add to reading list, other to come with course
** RAID / IANTD similar content
** Fabio asks to meet the other diver to get a feeling → chat to be opened
* Expedition
** CCR
** Copy of proposal as discussed in team
 
== 2024 02 23 Call with Rannva + feedback on slides ==
08:00, online – Rannva, FabioExploring a collaboration with [https://nixie-expeditions.com/ Nixie Expeditions]


Presentation of Nixie
Presentation of Nixie
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Fabio sends ideas of outputs
Fabio sends ideas of outputs


=== 2024 02 08 Call with Jill ===
== 2024 02 08 Call with Jill ==
Short presentation
01:00, online – Jill, Fabio


Proposal to reflect on a disruptive participation on Geneva Health Forum 2025 on Water and Health, mention on underwater painting with Isabelle, example of art to show the melting of iceberg, flows of water with fluorescine, etc.
* Short presentation, interest of joining an expedition
* Proposal to reflect on a disruptive participation on Geneva Health Forum 2025 on Water and Health, mention on underwater painting with Isabelle, example of art to show the melting of iceberg, flows of water with fluorescine, etc.


=== 2024 01 31 Meeting Eric and GE, Isabelle ===
== 2024 01 31 Meeting Isabelle ==
Discussion on the other perspective proposed by Prenons soin ensemble at the Geneva Health Forum: 2022 outside vs inside, 2025 underwater vs over.
11:40 to 13:15, GE – Isabelle, Fabio


Proposal from Isabelle to do waterpainting and from Fabio to include technical and scientific diving.
Proposal from Isabelle to do waterpainting and from Fabio to include technical and scientific diving.
== 2024 01 31 Meeting Eric ==
09:00 to 10:15 ?, Campus Biotech – Eric, public servant, Fabio
Discussion on the other perspective proposed by Prenons soin ensemble at the Geneva Health Forum: 2022 outside vs inside, 2025 underwater vs over.

Latest revision as of 11:08, 18 May 2024

Uncovering Inner WorldsAgendaResources on divingResources on Indonesia

2024 05 16 Decision to postpone

The lack of funding plus the gaps in my preparation bring me to the difficult decision to postpone the trip. I inform Robin, and Antoine.

2024 05 15 IONS workhop rejected

Information that workshop is not selected.

2024 05 15 PH funding rejected

Information that funding is refused, letter to come

2024 05 01 Meeting Robin

14:55 to 15:00, online – Robin, Fabio

  • Budget review, not able to join without funding, only answer on May 20
  • Proposal to find someone to replace me and give them priority
  • Still very interested to the training, if not in June before the end of the year
  • Also interested in building meaninfgul projects
  • Lack of resources seen from myself, Robin, the team, and Nixie too

Feedback

  • May already be difficult to find another person
  • Arrangement regarding payment possible given background with Antoine
  • Proposal to maintain given it is rare to have four-people team dedicated on two weeks
  • We actively inform each other on news

2024 04 30 VS funding submitted

Funding application for research trip early 2025

2024 04 09 IONS workshop submitted

  • Proposal for scientific presentation

2024 04 01 Meeting Ar

10:00 to , online – Ar, Fabio

2024 04 01 Meeting Antoine

10:00 to 10:50, online – Antoine, Fabio

2024 03 29 Team alignment

13:55 to 14:25, online – Shiraz, Robin, Fabio

  • Shiraz
    • "zero knowledge of cave", did cavern training and a bit of intro to cave with Robin in Wakatobi in October 2022
    • Indonesia closest, no visibility in Malaysian caves
    • interested in exploring caves, joining 4 permanent cave divers in Malaysia
    • try to enjoy, hard working too, used to carry tanks :)
    • diving instructor, no interest in CCR
    • 60 years old
  • Internet: mostly permanent access to 4G, easy to send big files
  • Confirmation of arrival (22-23), preparatory dive (24), training (25+)
  • payment via Wise / Revolut
  • next → call with Robin for material, show infrastructure

2024 03 24 PH funding submitted

  • PH research trip

2024 03 22 Meeting Robin

10:50 to 11:30, online – Robin, Fabio

  • Expedition
    • Team busy, will come back, logistics issue given additional research team
    • Question of 3D scan, ideally with educational aim, but 100K needed for prod
    • General funding moving forward, Rannva is leading
  • Cave Course
    • Shiraz confirmed, will arrive on June 22 and will dive in wetsuit, did Intro to Cave with Robin, busy with exhibitions for Malaysian group
    • Mike confirmed, will arrive on June 23, not known but dives regularly with CCR
    • June 24 to rest, check material configuration, do a local dive in the sea
    • Dry suit ok, up to 3 hours into the water
    • Confirmation with deposit of 1K
  • Art pilot in june
    • Letter to be signed
    • Robin started photography four months ago
    • Local link with painters, poets, etc easier on site – challenge of time
  • My inputs
    • Proposal to link 3D to game project with Genevan foundation
    • Ongoing D3 DM 60 m
  • Price of BigBlue to be sent

2024 03 20 File

  • Proposal updated based on various inputs, especially Florens
  • Proposal sent to Robin, Florens, Michael, Lionel, Sigit, Tobias, Yonariza
  • To do : library, Carole, Li, Ranvva, Eric, Isabelle - Alex ?
  • Application for a research notebook at hypotheses.org

2024 03 15 Meeting Yonazira

11:00 to 11:20, online – Yonazira, Fabio

  • Intro about project
  • Previously more active in water management and irrigation systems, now more in forests
  • Different perspectives of the commons depending on cultural groups and domains
  • Example of Subak in Bali, Unesco heritage
  • Fabio sends short text

2024 03 15 Meeting Tobias

09:30 to 09:40, phone – Tobias, Fabio

  • Info about project and link to research done on fisheries management in Central Sulawesi
  • Contact to expert early April
  • Possible link to IASC conference in 2027
  • Fabio sends short text

2024 03 15 Meeting Eric

14:15 to 14:30, Campus Biotech – Eric, Fabio

  • Update

2024 03 15 Meeting Carole, Izia

13:30 to 14:10, Campus Biotech – Carole, Izia, Fabio

  • Presentation of projects
  • Links proposed

2024 03 15 Call with Li

10:00 to 10:10, online – Li, Fabio

  • Inputs following intro
    • Main public could be university nature lovers: pencinta alam
    • For landrights activists, the topic may not be a priority unless visibly related
    • See nickel mining article in magasine Tempo
    • Parallel of mapping with satellites helping visualise deforestation, mines, etc.
  • Local culture
    • Mostly pragmatic relationship to nature – no concept similar to Pachamama in South America
    • Awareness that crop exploitation does not benefit local communities – forced displacements, etc.
    • An inhabitant spke of corporate occupation as living with giants : hidup bersama raksasa
    • Own focus not so much on the frontier in the relationship to nature
  • Post call reflection
    • Transiting from creating digital commons to preserving natural commons

2024 03 08 Call with Sigit

11:45 to 11:50, online – Sigit, Fabio

  • Info on project

2024 03 07 Meeting Julien

17:45 to 19:40, Martigny, Julien, Fabio

  • Discussion about project and timeframe
  • P3 CMAS, evt DM SDI and FESSSM licence
    • Focus on Dive Leadership, Safety, tech for Overhead
    • 10 x theory Thu 17:45 to 19:45
    • 15-20 dives in pool, Roselles (20 m), Les Îles (38 m), few times Rivaz, by two
    • 900.– incl certification, evt DM and FFESSM 50.–
    • Book : code vagnon guide de palanquée
  • Afterwards possibly M1 with 10 x theory and 10 x practice

2024 03 07 Call with Antoine

12:15 to 12:30, online – Antoine, Fabio

  • Brief info about trip

2024 03 07 Call with Robin

10:45 to 11:00, online – Robin, Fabio

  • Projet art
    • Importante culture d'artistes dans de nombreux domaines
    • L'ile de Buton fut un sultanat dès le 15e siècle et a une riche tradition orale
    • Info sur besoins pour la demande : artiste pro, légitimité institutionnelle, lettre de référence
  • Confirmation sur voyage
    • Destination : Betoambari Airport BUW
    • Vol de Singapour à Makassar tous les deux jours
    • Vols locaux voir traveloka.com
    • Compter 25 kg de matériel
    • Nouvelle personne dans le groupe
  • Retours matériel
    • Préférer manchons et colerettes interchangeables, réparations difficiles nivea local
    • Utilise des botillons vs rockboot, pas de terrain difficile
    • Valve low profile
    • Manomètre bouton sur déco ok, mais à changer chaque année
    • Poches toujours utiles

2024 03 04 Call with Robin + proposal sent to team

15:00 to 15:30, online – Robin, Fabio

  • Logistics
    • Training foreseen with other diver. Ideally 3rd trainee for group dynamics, otherwise person practicing
    • June 24, minimum 13 days (July 6)
    • Arrival via Jakarta → Makassar → Baubau. Boat takes three days, not always, schedule one month before
    • Start on Baobao for caverns (hosting to chose) then shift to Muna for cave (single hotel), and transportation to various sites
  • Expenses
    • 4000K IDR / day including tanks, transport
    • 500K IDR / night hosting
    • 150K IDR / day meals
    • 150K IDR boat
  • Material
    • Dry suit neo or trilam → trilam recommended, more resistant and adaptable
    • MK25 / G260 → same
    • RK3 HD → has RK3 too light, good fins
    • Orca 630 → some had bugs, rather BigBlue TL5200P sidemount
    • Casque → 50K IDR/day or LightMonkey or Petzel for sump
    • Tank 300 bar → S80 alu 200 easier to manipulate, or 300 7L
  • Preparation
    • Close calls to add to reading list, other to come with course
    • RAID / IANTD similar content
    • Fabio asks to meet the other diver to get a feeling → chat to be opened
  • Expedition
    • CCR
    • Copy of proposal as discussed in team

2024 02 23 Call with Rannva + feedback on slides

08:00, online – Rannva, FabioExploring a collaboration with Nixie Expeditions

Presentation of Nixie

  • Four goals
    • Mapping, exploration
    • Science, guests from local university
    • Aquifer conservation and education, UNESCO
    • Access to freshwater, dry caving
  • Generally
    • Four initiators: Maria, Robin, Rannva, Rasmus (diving)
    • Kristine (science coordination)
    • Planned October 2023, postponed one year
    • Expedition from October 13 to November 3 + 1 week pre-post
  • Next steps
    • Secure funding 25%, all private now, notably Rolex
    • Rebranding for a series, openings for Papua , Brasil, Mexico, Sardinia
    • Preparation of scientific protocols
    • Equipment container to be shipped from Danemark until June
    • Pre-training done

Ideas from discussion

  • Contribution on human dynamics: sensations felt, consciosness, etc. (link to human factor)
  • Participatory design for co-creation and dissemination (research notebook, partnership The Conversation, ... ?)
  • Relation to PTSD
  • Specific funding to be raised for this purpose: sponsor foundation? platform such as Patreon?

Nixie presentation sent for feedback.

Fabio sends ideas of outputs

2024 02 08 Call with Jill

01:00, online – Jill, Fabio

  • Short presentation, interest of joining an expedition
  • Proposal to reflect on a disruptive participation on Geneva Health Forum 2025 on Water and Health, mention on underwater painting with Isabelle, example of art to show the melting of iceberg, flows of water with fluorescine, etc.

2024 01 31 Meeting Isabelle

11:40 to 13:15, GE – Isabelle, Fabio

Proposal from Isabelle to do waterpainting and from Fabio to include technical and scientific diving.

2024 01 31 Meeting Eric

09:00 to 10:15 ?, Campus Biotech – Eric, public servant, Fabio

Discussion on the other perspective proposed by Prenons soin ensemble at the Geneva Health Forum: 2022 outside vs inside, 2025 underwater vs over.