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Revision as of 00:02, 1 April 2025

Background

1997

  • April. First recreational dive in Lake Geneva. Over two years, I will do 80 dives, most in the lake.

2023

  • October. Resuming diving during a retreat in Indonesia. I switch to sidemount and deco, and discover the Coral Triangle.
  • November. A video of Robin Cuesta in Sulawesi caves inspires me to get into cave diving.
  • December. Exceptional 100th dive in Thailand, where I am surrounded by thousands Great Barracudas.

2024

  • January. I order the books from Stratis Kas where renown divers provide insights into cave training and incidents.
  • March. I plan a full cave training in Sulawesi in June, and propose to build a research collaboration with the Nixie expedition.
  • April. Back to the lake with my new sidemount equipment, I am confronted with many challenges: my old dry suit is leaking and the setup needs a lot of adjustments, which adds to the skills I need to acquire to become a dive leader. I need practice!
  • May. I decide to postpone the cave training as I do not feel ready, and I did not get the support for my research.
  • October. My most stressful dive, navigating into a milky cloud with maybe 30 cm visibilty for 15 minutes.
  • November. Back to South East Asia, where I discover freediving.

2025

Next

  • April. Certification as Dive leader, training as Instructor.

Diving possibilities

Beyond my intention to plan trainings with the instructors mentioned, various openings emerge to practice in 2025.

This bring me to reflect that gathering practices in different settings may be more important at the beginning of the curriculum, than finding the best training. I will be able to improve my practice and get training with the instructors I identified as my practice develops.

  • End of March: possible cavern training during my stay in South France – 3 cavern dives?
  • Early June: possible week in Rocamadour proposed by my current instructor – clarify possibilities to practice in caverns?
  • End of July: possible practice in Vallorbe with SCD?

Training comparison

Organisation Swiss Cave DIving Sulawesi Dive Trek (IANTD) Stratis Kas FFESSM
Level HT 1 HT 2 HT 3 Cavern Intro Full Tech Cavern Intro Full PS1 PS2 PS3
Supervision needed
Distance max 50 m, daylight daylight 60 m, daylight 90 min
Visbility min 10 m 3 m
MOD 20 m 30 m 40 m EAD divers level 39 m 60 or 91 m 30 or 40 m 40 m
Gas limit 1/3 1/3 1/6 1/3 1/6 1/3 1/4
Cave limitations
T ✖️
Jumps ✖️ ✖️
Gaps ✖️
Restrictions ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️
Siphon ✖️ ✖️
Circuit, traverses ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️
Deco ✖️ ✖️ O2, Trimix ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ or 30 min 30 min
Entry requirements
Min certification Rescue Dive leader Advanced Advanced N2 N3
Min open dives 25 50 100 10 30 50 50 30 20
Min overhead dives 4 (2 sites) 8 (4 sites) 10 1 20 (3 sites) 40 (6 sites), 6 Z3, 2 multisiphon
Course
Theory, hours 4 to 6 6 to 8 8 to 12
Dry practice 0.5 day 0.5 day 0.5 day
Open dives 2 4 (2 sites) 4 (2 sites) 1 1
OH dives 4 (2 sites) 6+ (3 sites) 8 (4 sites) 4 4 8 8 3 6+ 4 to 6 1+3
Bottom time 200+ min 200+ min 400 min 400 min 60 to 90 min together 90 to 120 min
Minimum days 2.5 3.5 5.5 4 4 5 5 3 5 4
Days to full cave 11.5 13 12
CHF 590 1045+ 1650 865 865 1080 865 575 905 905
Total CHF 3285 2810